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haven't made yet. later, we'll have eva longoria here live tonight. we begin immediately with our all-star panel of experts. jason johnson, professor at morgan state university. former united states senator, jonathan jay who worked on senator &,jwarren's campaign. senator boxer, what does it all mean to you tonight? >> relief. happiness. joy. it's been -- it's been really difficult for those of us who felt this president was leading us into a tyrannical place. i honestly think that, i say this, maybe it's not politically correct, but i think that joe biden was the only one who could have done this. and, you know," met the moment and people trust him. he's got so much empathy. he knows how to work with folks. and get things done. so, i'm so happy, ari, and, but

mostly, it's relief. you know. >> uh-huh. jonathan? >> i think i also share thetiñ relief. azbwjrj been fighting the politics of fear and hate of this administration, it is such a relief for our communities across the country to be able to say, to stop the bleeding. right? because we know that one election is not going to bring the justice and the freedom that we're fighting for, but we know that it has and it will make a big difference. so to me, i'm taking, i took yesterday, i'm taking today, to celebrate and tomorrow we're right back to work. right back to bringing and fighting for the future we all deserve. >> yeah, and as you say, that's certainly the biden/harris administration's plan. because we're seeing them going right back to work tomorrow. f how donald trump tomorrow. handles it. tomorrow,e work day is tákf hou jason johnson, been one of our analysts throughout this whole wildide, that means tonight

we're noteqq yet back to the k workday and so i want to get into some of the memes. these are going viral online. >> yes. >> not everyone looks at the same time. some of them are so good we cut them for air. theu:f context, there's a famou he took out a cell phone to play the hit song "desposito qup "at the podium in florida. someone remixed that with different and relevant song and cut in reactions. take a look. >> something to say. hang on here. ♪ you about to loose your job ♪.ewñ ♪ you about to lose your job wdyiñ jason?to lose your job %qñ >> you know, ari, the original version of that was actually --

it was actually changed to "you're about to lose your job." i think -- i think what that reflects is that there's been a tremendous amount of creative joy about donald trump being pushed out of office. that the memes from making fun of nevada, to the nation being key & peele about the president saying thank you, you're welcome, to all sorts of different kinds of states and ignoring people in different parts of the country is like a creative explosion. we've seen this. right? that's the kind of thing that happens after oppressive regime) end, you have artists, you have have musicians sort of coming out. i don't think we are going to fully recognize for a couple weeks, maybe even months how much repression,fuñ culturally, there was with a trump administration and how free people are going to feel afterwards. >> well, jason, putting us on to the fact that you're saying there were remixed versions with fdt on it and there was too hot. you know, that's not going to go as viral. >> yes. >> kind of hot.

pretty hot. jonathan -- >> yeah. yes. >>jonathan's laughing. weigh in if you want. have a question for you as well. >> i think what i have -- i don't want to -- what i really want to talk about, ari, is really talking about the people who made this possible.a"hy like, i loveñd2 taking a second enjoy and really celebrate this moment, but i really want to make sure that we're giving to the organizers, to the young people who came out and voted in record numbers, right, like me, the young -- the young black people, latinx communities and key states likez you know, senator 0÷çxboxer, i eva duvernay posted today talking about all the creativity. she said try to do your job in a

way where if you lose it, people are not dancing in the streets all over the world. >> yeah. >> senator? >> i mean, yes, i mean, when i of joy, i mean, no one really organized it. people just came out. you know, i'm old enough, i wasn't old enough toím the ii, but i was born right during world war ii. and those famous photos, those iconic photos, people just streaming out and, of course, the historians are basically telling us this is what happens when dictators get overthrown. people jouust come out and celebrate. it's stunning. when i heard that, i stopped in my tracks. %9qm9ñ okay? i've served with five presidents. i've seen transitions. i've never seen any president act like this. but i have to tell you, even aftergí barack obama got electe and my heart swelled and i

thought the whole world was better. i thought everything was done. street. they went into the street after this trump, and it;x@] says so . and historians when they do write about it, it's, i think it's going to be a page in the book. just last point, i know how much you love music. >> sure. >> six seconds before it was announced that the networks had given it to biden, i was on my elliptical in my garage listening to, you're going to think i'm so old, lambert hendrickson ross. you probably don't even know who they are. and i thought, i love this. but i'm going to switch over to msnbc. switched over to msnbc. the moment they announced, jumped off, ran, told my husband, almost killed myself, but i'm here. >> you're here. >> there's a lot of joy. there's a lot of joy.

i'm here. >> 6÷s5yes. >> we're glad you're here. we're glad you're here through the five presidents that you've worked alongside in the senate. >> yep. >> and the experience you bring. no, it is, we're talking about -- it's hard -- look, what do we do in our jobs? we do reporting. we do sourcing. we use words. we show the videos. it's hard to get through the camera here and really even we've shown all these things. we went to the memes a little e÷ bit, jason, because it's hard to get to that next level and sítj to a point i want you to speak on that michelle goldberg raised later in our previous coverage -- previous hour, which was are they going to go around now and ask of the rest of understand voter? well, do you want to go understand the biden voter and do you want to understand why is it as the senator just spoke about that so many people feelá literally liberated? what is itxe-x about the way th government's been running? >> right. >> that people feel not differences of opinion, you have a difference over how big should

the federal education budget be. or should it be more locally !p >> right. >> that's a debate. the people aren't dancing in the streets over that. they're dancing in the streets over why they feel finally liberated. >> yeah, ari, this is -- this is an important historic context that i think everybody needs to understand. i'll put my political scientist hat on now. usually, you don't get in countries, even democracies as old as ours, usually you don't" get rid of an aspiring dictator through the electoral process. ! right? the philippines is going to have trouble with duterte. brazil is going to have trouble with bolsonaro. erdogan is probably going to be there for life. putin isn't going to leave until he wants to leave. the idea on american, givenwvn) way donald trump cheated, perverted everything from the post office to the department of justice, to basically turning the republicans in congress into his own personal wing of power and abuse, the fact that we were able to remove somebody like that through the peaceful

process of voting is miraculous. that is -- >> wow. >> -- historic on so manyapr @&% different levels. >> yeah. >> and people were out there because we have liberated ourselves without having to shoot anybody. and that's pretty amazing for american history. >> well, when you put it that way it's likeiy7t a riddle. what's the last time that someone who was holding onto an authoritarian-type goal,qáher achieved it or not, actually was thrown out by a democratic process? io%añ guess you'd have to go ba< to, like, chile,omç5 they had a campaign, they actually had a vote, he actually lost the vote and it was like a thing, but to your point here, it's not my job to tell people how to vote or what to think. it's an objective fact that donald trump openly talked about breaking election law. >> yes. >> having his supporters vote multiple times. other people not. all the rest. senator? >> well, the power of the vote is so strong. and the message got through to the people. of people who look

different, pray different, love different. know, have different economic values and so on, so forth. but they understood, you know, the big mistake trump made is he kept trying to take away our vote. and people, especially young people, you know, they want to be part of a revolution. and voting never was cool before. and now it was cool because why? trump kept saying, oh, you know, we're not going to let these people vote. you can take away the votes of these people. it's all fraudulent. and all of a sudden people said, uh-uh, we're not going there. so the beauty of this is the power of the vote. and i've often said when you get in that -- in that voting booth, this time(#tp lot of us did it right at home, you are as powerful as the most powerful ceo or anybody else. it is our vote.

and i think the country is going to change because i"?ge think w young people vote, they keep voting. i mean, they're not going to just now turn away. we have to focus on georgia and now we have to take this to georgia. >> right. >> and i am so excited at the prospect of this ticket, which is historic in many ways. that ticket that we're going to be voting for. jonathan jace green. still ahmed in this hour of white house coverage, white house insiders spilling secrets like we've never seen before. amazing reporting i want to get into with tony schwartz. my special report on the end of the trump era. what that means and our exclusive guest, actress and activist eva longoria is here live tonight. stay with us. car insura so you only pay for what you need? just get a quote at libertymutual.com.

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donald trump has not discussed anything on camera since losing this election. many trump insiders are starting to leak and speak about where it all went wrong. i want to get right to it with two very special guests for our coverage tonight, former trump co-author tony schwartz from "the art of the deal." new book, "dealing with the devil: my moth e trump and me." and an anchor from bbc news. fascinating reporting i've been reading from the "washington post" and politico, people opening up in ways we haven't seen before. i want to read something here about people in trump world. basically trying to pin a lot of this on jared kushner. politico reporting kushner began to take on this hands-on role demanding details on everything from finances to messaging when he was not, of course, in charge of the campaign technically. a trump ally tells the paper the only constant this campaign from day one, to the very last day,

was kushner adding, if the president wins, kushner deserves credit but if he loses, kushner deserves the blame. we got several bite-sized pieces here. one of the things we're seeing is trump advisers turning on themselves, sometimes on the record. >> yeah, i mean, what happens when you lose in a campaign is that very quickly, you look for somebody else to blame, particularly when you have a president who, himself, has admitted that he finds loosing very difficult. right? and this will come from the top. donald trump has yet to concede. he has yet to tell the american people, look, joe biden won fair and square. he's still searching for reasons that this might have been stolen from him. and that trickles down throughout the campaign. they're going to constantly be trying to find people to blame. i think one of the tenets of the trump presidency that lots of people uncovered, other presidencies remarked on, is actually there are very few people around donald trump who are really loyal to him. who really like him, respect

him, would go out of their way for him. you know, just look at the turnover in the white house. it is unprecedented the amount of turnover that there has been. and he has had an ability to hire and fire people. that doesn't do great things. when you're in a foxhole, you need somebody to help you get you out, there aren't very many people around. it doesn't surprise me that we've got members of the campaign looking to blame other people. >> it's a great point you make. tony, it speaks to an accountable truth that might disagree with the narrative. the narrative is oh, he gets away with everything. and he gets away with some things. but not everything. and there is a view here that not only did he just lose and he's the loser, i don't say that pejoratively, he's the loser of this race. there's a lot of people around showing that it didn't have to be this way. they say he's both a loser and cause of his own loss. and they work for him. we're seeing also in this reporting that trump pollster back in july put together a 79-page exhaustive memo to warn

the president he had to change his tune to win, had to reverse course, encourage supporters to vote by mail rather than bashing it, to address the virus before trying to open the economy. to mandate face masks rather than mocking them. each of those being straightforward things from the rather intense political headline, this effing virus, quote/unquote. these are trump's people saying it's his fault. >> well, i'm going to go with kati and say blame is what goes around after you lose in an election like this. trump has to blame because it's intolerable to him to think of himself as anything but a winner. the only option is loser. and loser is to be obliterated, to not exist. so, he will never concede that he lost. but, you know, i was reading "cast," isabelle wilkerson's

extraordinary new book. i read a quote that was remarkable to this moment, talking about dehumanization, said it's a war against truth, g to dehumanize another human being is not to declare someone is not human and does not happen by accident. it's a profession. it's a programming. it takes energy and reinforcement to deny what is self-evident in another member of one's species. and it made me think, ari, that what we need right now, i do think biden is maybe ideally positioned to do this, is we need to rehumanize, not de demonize. we need to rehumanize america and americans because the american infliction, mostly unspoken, is the fear of not being good enough. and the need is a result to feel better than by dehumanizing and demonizing others. but trump, trump may be the first leader ever to do that to

supporters and detractors alike. if you think about covid, what he did to all of us in his handling of it is to make us sick and actually to be responsible for the death of what is now going to be almost a quarter of a million lives. this is a man who earned his loss. >> as you say, that approach of -- it's important you mention it, demeaning many, but also his own people. we saw that in these bizarre closing rallies where he was saying i didn't want to be here, i wouldn't come back here but for my own political survival's on the line. it was a contrast to, again, i want to reach into brand-new reporting, this weekend reporting after the loss, bizde was criticized how they didn't do in-person campaigning, his campaign telling "washington post" it was an easy thing, adding, only in trump's america, listen to medical experts become

some kind of shocking political decision. >> yeah, i mean, look, i have spoken to democratic candidates during the course of this campaign in states like georgia and florida when i was traveling down there, who did express frustration with the fact that they couldn't do in-person events. that there wasn't more door knocking in person over the course of the summer when, perhaps, people felt a little more comfortable because the virus seemed to be receding a little bit. so it's fair to say that there was frustration. and it's also possible that we will look back, you know, once we have all of the numbers. in its early days we don't have all the data from this campaign. look at those rallies of president trump's and find that they did actually drive out turnout. you know, something accounts for the fact that there was a big turnout for president trump on election day. and, you know, some of it's extraordinary. look at the 936 counties in america that have the highest cases of the -- sorry, 376

counties in america that have the highest cases of coronavirus. 93% of them voted for donald trump. so there were plenty of people out there around this country who saw the coronavirus in their communities. i mean, some of these counties are small. you know people who have the coronavirus. and, yet, donald trump was winning those counties in a landslide. >> yeah. >> so the impact of the coronavirus i think on this campaign is one that we will still have to continue to study, but it's a more nuanced, mixed, confusing picture, perhaps, than we might have thought a couple weeks ago. >> i appreciate as always your rigorous approach to the underlying data. when i was poring over the actual vote tallies, i noticed that seniors said they prefer trump's handling of the coronavirus to biden. so either they do or they just prefer trump and then claim to support him on any random topic. people can debate out what those

numbers peop s mean, tony, but suggest the at-risk pool, senior pool, had sea change on that. the last thing i want to get tony on here, donald trump hasn't spoken for two days. when will we hear from him? how will he process this loss as everyone abandons him? >> so i don't think he's able to process the loss. i don't think, as i said earlier, i don't think there's any chance that he will say that he lost. he has turned defeat into -- he has portrayed defeat as victory a million times. we're rounding the corner on covid, if you're listening to donald trump. as we hit record numbers. so i don't expect him to do that. what i expect him to do is fashion a way of explaining this loss by doing what we've been talking about throughout this segment which is by blaming others. jared will come high in that. almost everybody around him is going to get it because at this point, trump is incredibly isolated.

he has basically reduced his -- his circle to almost nonexistent. so you can expect trump to attack anybody. i mean, maybe his three oldest kids are an exception. but even they could become -- >> yeah. >> the one thing donald trump can't do is be the person who is responsible for this. >> yeah. really fascinating from two of our experts. i want to thank you. up ahead in our special coverage, the actress and activist eva longoria is here on the biden/harris win. up next is my special report on what the end of the trump era means as we go forward. ♪ ♪

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donald trump is the loser of this election. donald trump got fewer votes than biden. just as he got fewer votes than clinton, indeed, donald trump is now the only president to ever lose the total vote twice. both times he ran for president. and while it was not immediately visible on that unfolding election night, with results trickling in for an election where americans shifted how they vote for this pandemic, and while yes, it also took several days to get all those ballots in and to report out those careful projections state by state at kornacki's big board, in the end, it was not even close. biden beat trump decisively with roughly 4 million more votes. with over 50% to trump's 47%. with an electoral college margin of multiple states which shuts down even the long-shot ploy that some sort of recount or lawsuit or something in a single state might drag this out. this is clear to everyone.

>> former vice president joe biden has been elected president of the united states. >> winning the white house and denying president trump a second term. >> rachel, this screen right underneath you says joe biden elected 46th president. >> you can see here there's music playing. people are dancing. cheering. lots of biden/harris signs. >> this is a great day for everyone. great day for america. >> created a better opportunity and a better world for our children. and that means a lot today. >> donald trump entered the white house as an unpopular and divisive figure. america's second choice. vaunted into power with our strange electoral college system in 2016. and he now leaves the same way. the unpopular loser of the total vote again. and of the electoral college. one of shakespeare's most iconic monologues from the 420-year-old play, "as you like it," there are lines that apply here.

"all the world's the stage. one man in his time plays many parts." the speech to suggest the last is the return to the first, when a man in his old age becomes like a baby again. facing his, quote, second childishness and mere oblivion. that's trump right now tonight. leaving as he arrived, facing a loss that cements his presidency has an aberrant and unpopular chapter in our history, as he enters his own kind of political oblivion. okay. so what are we to make of it all? if trump came in on a fluke, never earned majority support, not in two national elections, not in national approval, what was this all about? can we just forget about him and what he wrought? can americans just say, hey, we want to say and believe we're better than this, we rejected this, let's move on. or, do we need a reckoning with

how far donald trump got here which shows how far we have to go? i want to tell you tonight, it matters how we approach these questions. and i want to tell you what i think. on one hand, there's no reason to overestimate donald trump's support when he lost -- when he is the loser of this race. when he has been clearly rejected. it would be inaccurate and dilute the victory to overdue that. and sometimes some democrats get in their own way on these things. but on the other hand, i don't think there's any good reason to think that trumpism is some kind of historic, ahistorical, rare anomaly in american life. in fact, over the past four years we did hear people, sometimes these comfortable d.c. people, blithely claim this is not who we are. but america, trumpism is who we are in some significant ways. this is who so many americans

support. and after four years of seeing trump in action, removing any possible doubt people might have had, trump went from roughly 63 million votes last time to 71 million votes this time. he grew his share of the vote among certain groups as well including wealthy voters and latino voters. trump won outright among men in america. women of color who powered biden's margin of victory. trump won outright and decisively among white voters 57%-42%. so we need to remember that as well. any time you walk into a room of white people who are registered to vote, statistically, most of them backed donald trump. after all this. and finally, i want to show you this. in one of the most telling breakdowns for the future, donald trump still broke even with biden among the traditional electorate. the majority of americans who had voted before. when you just look at that part, they split 49%-50%. biden won this thing by

dominating among first-time voters by 34 points. those new voters are 13% of this electorate. so, to put it a different way, donald trump could have won this race if those 19 million new and young voters didn't register and vote for the first time over these past few weeks. in the years ahead i can tell you whether those new voters keep voting could completely control our politics more than anything else. so both things can be true. america has rejected trump. more people voted against him than for him in 2016 and a majority voted him out in 2020. but, second, trump tapped into broad american support and he enlarge it over this time. consider that an informed endorsement of who he stands for. we got to face that, too. it's quite obvious trump didn't create or begin the bigotry or anger he tapped into any more than he wrote "make america great again." that slogan was plagiarized from ronald reagan as trump's performative politics came right out of his reality show

experience. he just played this part. he got the script from around the nation. he got it from the rest of america. from our living history. from our struggle to ever try to truly achieve justice and to overcome. which brings us back to another set of classic bars on this topic of standing up to a would-be autocrat. i bet you know the line. "the fault, dear brutus, is not in our stars but in ourselves." we got to look into ourselves. in a year when so many stood up to america's ongoing injustices, it is perfectly fine to forget trump. the loser of elections are often quickly forgotten. we should not forget trumpism, its causes, growing, its growing support this week. as americans face another difficult chapter. even as many celebrate the relief of putting trump behind them, you know, the streets were full of revelry and the honking and the dancing and the singing.

the anthems that had imagined this day. one song in particular has been playing on a loop in many parts of america. "fdt" which boils town to basically forget donald trump. the late artist, nipsey hussle contrasts how obama offered hope as trump spends his dad's money on the vote, adding, "i'm from a place where you probably can't go. speaking for a people that you probably ain't know. pressure built up and it's probably going to blow. and along with the rapper yg, he quotes tupac's celebration of american diversity, "it wouldn't be the usa without mexicans and if it's time to team up, let's begin. black love. brown pride. in the sets again. white people feel the same as my next of kin." how about that. donald trump exploited division for his own political survival,

but it is this diverse teamwork that led to his political extension. so just as both things can be true, we can all do two things at once. we can remember exactly how we got here. but also forget donald trump. (harold) twelve hundred strings of lights. (betsy) quarter mile of tinsel. (harold) and real snow all the way from switzerland. (betsy) hmmhm... gonna be tough to top. ♪

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cheering, in the end of this era. there were also celebrations abroad. places like paris where the actual church bells were ringing. listen to that. [ bells ] that doesn't happen for every election. that was the reaction there to mark trump losing. joe biden becoming our president-elect. take london. fireworks were set off. celebrating this historic win. let's take this in. millions of people in dozens and dozens of countries stopping to reflect on what we did, what you did here in america yesterday.

and then there's another one here from a longtime ally, israel's prime minister netanyahu going out of his way to very clearly and graciously congratulate biden and harris. now we go from global reaction to a true global icon. we're about to speak with the actress, director an activist, eva longoria. she worked tirelessly with the biden campaign. you may remember her, of course, from the starring role hosting the first night of the dnc this year. we should also mention she was on the ground in florida twice with biden. participating as well in virtual events with the campaign. she was also formally the national campaign co-chair for barack obama's 2012 re-election. she is the co-founder of she se pueda, organization aimed at fostering a community for latinx voices. after a very busy weekend for many, i'm thrilled she's our guest. thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> you know, this expression when someone's the face of something, for a lot of americans who are not following every, you know, who's the lieutenant governor, who's the

deputy campaign manager, you are a well-known and trusted and i think it's pair fair to say ver popular face. you became the face of that convention at this time of peril and the virus. and you were out there on the campaign. so first just how are you feeling, your thoughts about this tonight? >> oh, my, well, i can't even express them. the amount of relief that i have felt. just like all the, you know, pictures and video you were showing, it wasn't just america. the world is celebrating. i feel like i can breathe again. i feel like my shoulders are relaxed. we have a leader. we have a lot of work to do. we have a lot of work to do moving forward. and i'm just -- i'm excited that, you know, democracy won. we have to remember that we have so much more in common than that which divides us. i think, you know, biden's speech really summed it up really great when he said it's time to put away the harsh rhetoric, got to listen to each other again. at the end of the day, we all

want the same things as americans. >> was it important to you -- go ahead, sorry. >> no. no, go ahead. >> were you humming to my hmm? is that what was going on? >> i was doing that. i felt like you didn't agree with me. >> no, no, i was humming in agreement, but you're an actor so you're so empathetic probably naturally hard wired, just going off the sound and the vibe even through our remote. but, no, i was going to take that and say, how important was it to understand joe biden as a person? because you just talked about what brings us together. and certainly -- >> yeah. >> -- decency brings us together. we were talking earlier about what dave chappelle said last night. relating to maga supporters and police officer and others because he says, well, let's try to empathize. we've lost some of that. a lot of people say we've lost that partly because of the way donald trump has driven the conversation for four years. was it important to you, as such a supporter of joe biden, that his decency seemed to come through? >> oh, my gosh, of course, character matters.

who is in the room where it happened matters. there is a lot going on in the world right now. we need to pick a leader. not a liar. and america chose that. you know, and i, you know, i being part of many campaigns, you know, there wasn't one more important than this one. you know, we've been -- we've been saying all along, you mentioned it on your show right before the break, you know, he has a lot of people to thank for this victory. mostly people of color. the black and brown -- >> yes. >> -- communities delivered for biden. and, you know, we've been saying all along that the path to the white house ran through the latino community. and latinos turned out in record numbers across this country and states where it really mattered and i feel like because florida was the first state to come in that night that the narrative took over that, you know, latinos showed support for trump and that just isn't true. it's not -- it's not the narrative that needs to be out there. latinos delivered big for biden. latinos flipped arizona. no question. latinos delivered nevada.

you know, and then we had historic victories in wisconsin, pennsylvania, and michigan because of latinos. so latinos were a cornerstone to winning this election for biden. >> well, you know the usual problem with the political media narrative. >> what? >> it's wrong and stupid. usually. >> well, you know, we've long said -- i think what this election really proved is that the, you know, the latino community is not monolithic. we've known that. you know, the election really, really showed that. so many of those headlines that the came out that first day just weren't true. if you looked at florida, you know, biden got the same amount of cuban votes as obama did but he got 71% of puerto rican votes in florida, but the real headline was the turnout from unexpected parts of the united states. michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, not to mention texas. as a texan for the first time in decades we were talking about texas going blue.

that was exciting for me. you know, texas has a large hispanic population. a young population. within texas the latino vote was 70%, 75%, 80% for biden in majority latino precincts. >> yeah. >> dallas, houston, san antonio, austin. it's overwhe all backgrounds supported biden. >> well, part of what you're doing right now and we've been endeavoring to do in some of our reporting tonight and we're talking about a fuller picture of the numbers. some outstanding in places including new york. but the fuller picture, which if everyone got that on tuesday night at 9:00 p.m., what you just walked us through, the huge margins i walked through in the last segment, the power of young voters and particularly a diverse coalition and really people of color, but specifically women of color putting joe biden over the top and what that means, if that all just exploded along with, you know, a clear electoral vote margin tuesday night, that might have sunk in. instead we had a lot of other stuff between then and now that doesn't really matter. so i wonder what you think about that because going forward, this is also about power, and does the democratic party understand

why it's back in power? >> yeah. i think you bring up a good point. i mean i think, you know, campaign financing needs to be looked at. i think the way in which we campaign. there were so many false ads in florida in spanish. spanish wasn't regulated the same as in english. so i do think we need to take a look at that. again, our work is just beginning. but i want to talk about what you just said, the women. the women of color showed up in a big way. of course you saw in georgia what black women have done, but latina women were the real heroines here, beating men in turnout in every state and voting for biden/harris at an average rate close to three to one. that wasn't surprising to us. latinas make all the health care decisions and education decisions. many are small business owners and they wanted a plan for recovery for themselves and not for wall street. so trump's policies were never aimed at the struggling latina

community. if you look at voter suppression on top of that, hauow latinas showed up through long lines and driving 30 miles and all of that, and on top of that, restrictions in safety protocols of a pandemic, that spirit and perseverance that latinas use in their daily lives, the struggle to pay their bills and show up to their jobs and homeschool their kids and take care of their elders, that's the same perseverance and spirit they used to show up at the polls. >> yeah. i want to play one more piece from the dnc where, again, people remember you so much. this was from braden harrington talking about how joe biden helped him personally. take a look. >> yeah. >> without joe biden, you wouldn't be talking to you today. about a few months ago, i met him in new hampshire. he told me that we were members of the same club.

we stutter. it was really amazing to hear that someone like me became vice president. >> he's talking now about the president-elect. can we have more of that? can we have more kindness? >> yeah. you know, as a sister of a special needs person, that moment -- not only that moment, but the moment -- there's so many moments that character matters. that was one of them of course. but the moment when trump made fun of a disabled person. that, to me, just stabbed me in my heart because it reminded me of all the bullies in my sister's lifetime who made fun of her. and he was one of them? he was one of them? he's the leader -- he was the leader of this country, and so when i saw that little boy say,

you know, that mattered to him, biden changed his life, biden is going to do that for all americans. sorry. >> well, it's been a long road for you. i appreciate you sharing with us how you're feeling. seems like an emotional night for good reason. >> it was. it is an emotional night, and i think that like i said, you know, we have a lot of work to do. the fact that we had a historic voter turnout on both sides is a positive sign to the health of our democracy. so when you're making voting more convenient, it opens up democracy for all americans. and i think that's the message we have to take away, you know, when it's like, why are these votes coming in? because democracy's working. so that gives me great, great joy and pleasure. >> i don't do predictions, but i wouldn't be surprised if they come calling on you for more conventions. ms. longoria, thanks for joining us. >> i'm for hire. i'm for hire. thank you. >> we will be right back with our special coverage.

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it's time to put away the harsh rhetoric, lower the temperature, see each other again, listen to each other again. >> and the road ahead will not be easy, but america is ready, and so are joe and i. >> thanks for watching our special election coverage. you see the president-elect and the vice president-elect there. you can always find me on social media, instagram, facebook or twitter, @arimelber. join me tomorrow night 6:00 p.m. eastern for "the beat" with ari melber. we have a big show planned tomorrow night. keep it right here on msnbc for more live coverage next. hello, everyone. i'm ali velshi. thank you for joining us on this

historic weekend for our country. for a second day americans have celebrated joe biden's victory over donald trump, which became official on saturday after the state of pennsylvania was called for biden. this is a look at black lives matter plaza near the white house. it's one of many sites from coast to coast where americans are ecstatic over donald trump's defeat. and while the excitement is real and understandable, there is a raging pandemic in this country that is only getting worse. today nbc news confirms the united states has surpassed 10 million covid-19 cases. covid has killed 239,000 of our fellow americans. tomorrow president-elect joe biden will reveal his plan to fight the virus, announcing his own coronavirus task force. the biden transition team will officially launch on monday as well with 73 days until biden is sworn in as the 46th president of the united states. >> it's t